Why do us humans discriminate?

[Lieva]

You grasp for something that doesn't exist.
You see all the people in the world as one organism that should be able to compute.

We are induviduals, yet we belong to something and that something isn't Humanity. Humanity is too large for a single mind to compute and because of that we try to divide Humanity into smaller pieces like ~race, colors, cult, etc.

Of course you can see the troubles with this and try to find a solution but your mind(mine too) is too small to even compute the question.

A global mind with sub induvidual minds and making the whole earth a super organism would solve everthing.

(Again, don't take my posts too seriously)

hmm

you know the art of zen

you know slayn by any chance?
his posts used to be very zen like

[Xest]

I have long thought that many of the problems men currently have with aggression & depression stam from the impossibility within our modern societies to be a man. Population is waaay to dense for us to be able to fulfill our primary job as hunter/killer & defender of the cave & the territory surrounding it. Since we can't fulfill our natural role, many of us either direct our aggression outwards & become violent, or inwards & become depressive.

I found this on Slashdot relating to some other debate the other week, it's pretty interesting although I can't verify how true it is, it certainly makes a lot of sense though:

Humans are predisposed towards cooperation, not screwing each other over. How would a species that fucks itself over evolve in the first place?

The theory I've read is that genetically we have a cooperative side and a competitive side. Most of the time, we operate in cooperative mode. When things get really tight, we switch over to competitive mode.

Around 4500BC, the Sahara and much of Asia went from being grasslands to desert. The people that had settled there faced famine on a scale never before seen, as in times past, hunter-gatherers just picked up and left when things got that bad. With the surplus and organization that agriculture gave us, we had another option for the first time: go to war.

There is no evidence of fortified towns before this. No weapons that were only for killing humans, not hunting. No mass graves. After that, you see a wave of these things in the archaeological record, spreading out from that epicenter of violence.

The problem was that you had a generation of severely Post Traumatic Stress Disordered adults raising a generation of brain damaged children. Starvation means poor myelin sheath formation over nerves, and brain damage.

What happened is that the competitive mode got locked in, long after it was no longer the most efficient strategy. Most of what we call civilization comes either from this PTSD, brain damaged culture of violence, or the reaction to it.

You can still find tribes in the rainforests of the amazon that have not been impacted by this culture of violence and competition. Look for a book called The Continuum Concept [wikipedia.org] by Jean Liedloff. It talks about her time with one such tribe, and the theory of childhood development she came up with. The kids in this tribe never act out, never rebel, and are completely loving and non-competitive towards each other.

[Quinlan]

I dont like people that are discriminated

[<ankh>]

I dont like people that are discriminated

Problem is - people claim its discrimination loads of time just cos they got rejected. (even if thats not the reason they got rejected)

/Ankh

[Quinlan]

You might wanna reread what i wrote Ankh

But on the other hand i fully agree the call 'I am discriminated' is abused very many times. If something happens to you you dont like (and you are a minority) just shout discrimination and hope it works.

[Heta]

to quote Nigel Powers

There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

[Lieva]

to quote Nigel Powers

There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

heh

[Xest]

Funny thing is in a lot of UK public (and even many private nowadays) sector jobs they have "Gay and Lesbian", "Ethnic minority", "Women's" and "Disabled" groups which allow people in these groups to get together and voice their thoughts as to how their workplace could be improved to suit them, straight white males don't get that opportunity. I still can't help but think that firstly this is blatant discrimination against straight white males and also that putting people into boxes like that and separating them into groups is in itself discrimination and only serves to increase discrimination.

Honestly I think the first step to avoiding discrimination is for people to be comfortable in who they are and that's a large part the problem, people can't make racial, homophobic, sexist or whatever remarks to you very effectively if those remarks don't actually bother you. I have a gay friend and a gay colleague, my colleague is 50 and when called a fag will just say "Yeah and?" and people get on with him, my friend is 22 and a little insecure in his sexuality still and will get rather upset if you call him a fag so has a much harder time of it. I think being comfortable in yourself probably makes people around you more comfortable in speaking to and dealing with you too.

Perhaps for example instead of teachers bitching at kids in school if they don't succeed and so forth and instead giving the kids some encouragement, telling them they can do it and helping to boost their self-esteem and to be proud of who they are we wouldn't have these problems.

[Heta]

I'm not 22

[<ankh>]

You might wanna reread what i wrote Ankh

But on the other hand i fully agree the call 'I am discriminated' is abused very many times. If something happens to you you dont like (and you are a minority) just shout discrimination and hope it works.

Ahhh hehe sorry! Yepp, I misread it! but it was still worth mentioning what I said

/Ankh