Bugzy

[Tuthmes]

First of all ill say its great you run a ml raid and all, but...

At ml2 i asked for credit for 2 persons who where obviously in the bg and near you. I got told off for some reason. Fine wont bother you. Secondly i'm standing right near the "zerg" for 1 reason and 1 reason only. Lag. Then you kick me from bg because i'm not "near" or on the back of it. Etc, Etc. Could name a shitload of stuff more, i wont, i know how much bs it is to run a 180+ bg, but...

Learn to respect other players, no matter what rules you set or think you did.

Thank you.

[Psi]

First of all ill say its great you run a ml raid and all, but...

At ml2 i asked for credit for 2 persons who where obviously in the bg and near you. I got told off for some reason. Fine wont bother you. Secondly i'm standing right near the "zerg" for 1 reason and 1 reason only. Lag. Then you kick me from bg because i'm not "near" or on the back of it. Etc, Etc. Could name a shitload of stuff more, i wont, i know how much bs it is to run a 180+ bg, but...

Learn to respect other players, no matter what rules you set or think you did.

Thank you.

Life sucks, so do these 150+ ppl BG to run.
sorry to hear you got kicked or not granted credit...
if Buzy would keep everybody happy, we still would be on ml2.

[Tuthmes]

Life sucks, so do these 150+ ppl BG to run.
sorry to hear you got kicked or not granted credit...
if Buzy would keep everybody happy, we still would be on ml2.

So its ok now, nice attitude then! If Buzy didnt have any people turn there wouldnt be a ml raid at all . All i'm basically saying is, even with 150+ people in a bg, it doesnt have to turn you into a complete arsehole. I seen some perfectly good example's of that also.
I'm not biased about him kicking people, but do it for a legit reason and not because you're feeling you have some newly discovered nazi powah's.

[Teraka]

All things considered I think Bugz did a pretty good job. The lag made things almost unplayable at times. I also think he showed some surprisingly high tolerance for some of the rubbish that went through the battlegroup chat.

Obviously in a raid that size a leader, whoever it may be, will always struggle to keep track of everything that happens. If you missed credit and you should have legitimately got it then I, and no doubt Bugzy, is sorry for that. However with the level of spam that was going through it doesn't surprise me that stuff was missed. I honestly think it's better if the BG chat is set to listen and group leader are in a chat group with the BG leader to inform of important issues like LDs/missing encounters within their group. That said i'm not sure that would necessarily have helped today.

Bugzy has received an awful lot of flak recently for one reason and another and I'm not convinced that this isn't another attempt to dirty his name further by posting on such a public forum, especially one on which he can't respond. He can be a little abrasive at times I admit but his forebearance today was quite laudable.

The short story here is that he got most of us through in tough circumstances and was brave enough to run the event. If you missed out through one reason or another than I wish you luck on the next one or on your own raid. If you don't like Bugzy's style of leadership then don't go on his next raid.

On a final note I think that your comment about 'respect' could be as easily directed at those people within every BG who seem to be more keen to criticise and moan from the back seats. If a BG was easy to run then we would all be doing it rather than a certain select (and generally capable and certainly brave) few who run them almost weekly. They should be applauded not criticised.

Teraka

[Tuthmes]

Bugzy has received an awful lot of flak recently for one reason and another and I'm not convinced that this isn't another attempt to dirty his name further by posting on such a public forum, especially one on which he can't respond.

- Well if he did then yeh there must be a reason for it. Like i said i'm not biased for him kicking people, but do it for a legit reason, not for nothing at all or just picking someone randomly.

- Why cant he respond here?

- If Buzy says in the /bg pm me now for credit and i didnt get the credit, i will pm him then, because he said so. If he then responds "i can go screw myself", i find it without no respect towards an other player.

If you don't like Bugzy's style of leadership then don't go on his next raid.

Amen.

And yes he deserves his respect for trying, but by doin so you are therefor granded some responsebilty's also. There will always be some morons in the bg, this doesnt mean everyone has to suffer from them.

[Tuthmes]

Talked it over ingame.

[Belisar]

Talked it over ingame.

Seems it has been chatted through and a conclusion reached, even if not satisfactory to all, so we can move on now

[Tuthmes]

Yup Belisar, spot on

[Lieva]

k will close thread.

Can we stick to pms or something in future tho?
Ya i know not many posts get made but seriously this shouldnt have even been made.

BTW DONT make a new account if you have been banned please. It just annoys us